A common argument against veganism is that animals are killed no matter what we eat; therefore, veganism isn’t an inherently better or moral choice. Proponents often use this argument to point out the supposed hypocrisy of someone who is advocating for a vegan diet. In some cases, they will even argue that far more animals (e.g. mice) are killed to harvest plants than are killed to harvest animal flesh. This argument of course is completely false. No matter what kind of vegan diet you eat, you are always responsible for less animal deaths than any meat-eater, even if they eat local meat. The point of veganism is to minimize harm, as far as practical and possible to do so – a very real and attainable ideal, which starts at the plate.